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national security council spokesman john kirby will join us live in moments with the white house response. apparently, not just luxury vacations. an investigative report out just a few moments ago that found that the billionaire gop megadonor also paid for justice clarence thomas' nephew to go to school. why it was not disclosed ahead. nordstrom closing in san francisco. is it because of crime? we will talk to the chief economist. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. russia now accusing the united states of being behind that drone attack on the kremlin that we first reported here yesterday. vladimir putin's spokesperson making this claim which we schanote is a baseless one this morning. no evidence to back it up. he said we are aware of decisions on such actions and
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terrorist attacks are not made in kyiv but in washington. kyiv is executing what it is told to do. such attempts to disown kyiv and in washington are absolutely ridiculous. >> to be clear, ukraine has vehemently denied any involvement in the attack but moscow insists ukrainians were trying to assassinate putin. overnight we saw russia unleash a wave of its own drones on kyiv and other ukrainian cities. they had handwritten messages on them reading "for the kremlin" and "from moscow." matthew, such an escalation. the biden administration has been adamant it is not helping or encouraging ukraine to carry out attacks inside of moscow. these baseless claims without evidence from the kremlin in the last 24 hours are striking. >> yeah, well, striking perhaps, yes, but also typical of the kremlin to say that the attacks against the -- are not necessarily orchestrated by
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ukraine, but someone else is pulling the strings. of course, it's the united states and it's the sort of broader western alliance. i mean, this has been the narrative that the kremlin has tried to put across from the outset since launching its war more than a year ago. what is it, 14, 15 months ago now to conquer ukraine. it's doing that too stop ukraine falling into the hands of the western military alliance, specifically under the sway of the united states. and so through the prism in moscow, all of this action, these dramatic images we are seeing here again of these apparent drones exploding over the dome of the senate palace inside the walls of the kremlin, that was all orchestrated, the material was supplied by the targeting information was given by the united states. that's the kremlin line. of course, as you mentioned, the united states is, obviously,
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distancing itself from this. ukraine has as well. there are a couple of other options. i have spoken to a former russian mp who is in contact with militant groups inside russia who say that they are the ones that ka carried out this attack. >> mau, keep us updated. joining us now the white house's national security council spokesman john kirby. thank you for being here this morning. what's your response to russia claiming that it's actually washington behind this drone attack saying essentially they tell kyiv what to do? >> there is a word that comes to mind that i am not appropriate to use on national tv. i would just tell you mr. peskov is lying. it's a ludicrous claim. the united states had nothing to do with this. we don't know what happened here, kaitlin. i can assure you, the united states had no role in it whatsoever. again just to be clear, and i think you covered this at the beginning, we neither encourage nor enable ukraine to strike outside ukraine's borders. >> do you have any information that might indicate who was
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behind? >> no, we don't. we really don't. we are trying to learn about this best we can, but we honestly don't know what happened here. i think here is another thing that happened, poppy. in just the last 48 hours or so, mr. putin has continued to rain down on ukraine classruise miss and drones. yesterday killed 27 innocent civilians in a residential complexion that they hit, likely intentionally. that's also happening. >> are you saying that you think this is a pretext by russia for those actions? >> no, i don't know. it's not as if -- just, you know, back up. even longer than 48 hours ago, he -- over the course of the weekend, mr. putin was flying cruise missiles and drones hitting civilian infrastructure and targets throughout ukraine. it's not like he is looking for an excuse to find ways to kill innocent ukrainians. >> given that, do you see putin
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as a lawful and legitimate military target? >> look, we don't favor, we don't enendorse strikes on individual leaders. mr. putin is the aggressor here. his forces are in ukraine illegally and in an unprovoked way. if he wants to end this war, if he really wants to see security there on the continent, he could have his troops pull out of ukraine now and end this thing all together. >> you don't favor it, don't endorse it, but is it lawful, would it be legitimate? >> i don't think it's useful to get into a legal discussion here. we don't endorse, we don't encourage, we don't support attacks on individual leaders. >> notable to hear you say that. i want to get your reaction to what we are hearing from nato leaders. the assist secretary general for nato this morning, john kirby, is saying that they are -- there is significant risks that russia could pursue sabotage to disrupt
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western life, gain leverage against those nations providing support to ukraine. they are talking about concern that russia is targeting nato's critical infrastructure naval systems, even undersea cables, et cetera, as a way to fight this. >> we have been mindful of that and watching as best we can since almost the beginning of the war, poppy. i mean, that's one of the reasons why the united states through president biden moved so fast and so decisively to shore up our nato defenses on the eastern flank. we are watching this very, very closely. i am not aware of intelligence or information that would lead us to believe that's about to happen. but we are certainly monitoring this as best we can. it's not, you know, just separate and distinct from that reporting, it's not as if mr. putin hasn't already weaponized energy by the way he tried to sell oil well above market prices and hold back the supply to try to coerce the
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international market. not like he hasn't weaponized food. he has done that, too. this is part of a russian playbook. i don't have any indications or haven't seen anything that that's happening. >> you said that the u.s. does not encourage attacks or endorse them on other world leaders. we know from leaked documents the u.s. encouraged ukraine not to attack russia on the anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine. president zelenskyy said the white house never called him about that leak. why no? >> i can tell you for sure that as these documents started to get out into the public, we had multiple conversations with high-ranking officials in ukraine, as you would expect we would. frankly, with other countries as well that were affected by these leaks. and so we did communicate with ukraine. again various levels, various agencies and havvarious officia to let them know what was going on and promise we'd keep them
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informed. >> we have been hearing a lot from the u.s. about when this expected counteroffensive is going to start. what's the latest assessment in the u.s. intelligence view of when that's going to happen and how much potential land ukraine could retake? >> i am not going to get ahead of ukrainian plans here. this would be the worst place in the world to try to divulge that even if we had that kind of information. this is going to be up the ukrainians to decide. president zelenskyy is the commander-in-chief. he gets to decide where his military operates and when and in what circumstances. so i'll leave it to the ukrainians to speak to whatever future operations they might or might not conduct. what i can tell you, kaitlin, is that regardless of when or where and what units he decides to use to conduct offensive operations inside his country, he's got pretty much everything he needs to do that coming in the weeks and months ahead. we have provided another security package yesterday of some $300 million, ammunition,
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artillery pieces as well as breaching equipment and logistics and sustainment vehicles. he has about 98% of everything his forces say they need to be able to conduct offensive operations in the spring, in the weeks and months ahead, and that's not just coming from the united states. that's coming from allied and partnered nations all over the world. if they step off, they do so ready. the other thing, kaitlin, that often gets lost is the training we have done. we have trained multiple brigades of ukrainian soldiers outside the country over the last few months to get them schooled up on something we call combined arms maneuver, which is the kind of international monetary fund integrated war fighting they need. so there has been a lot of training. a lot of material dallas. a lot of contributions to the efforts that they are ready and it will be up to them to decide how and when to execute. >> i don't wouldn't to let you go without asking about sudan.
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one of our reporters was alongside some of the evacuations from port sudan of americans. samantha power told kaitlin on the program that they cannot get the humanitarian aid that is needed in unless there is a permanent ceasefire s that achievable in your view? also, can you guarantee that every american who wants to get out of sudan can? >> so on the first question, is it achievable? we certainly hope so. that's why we are working through diplomacy to get the generals to put their arms down and to actually abide by the ceasefires. the ceasefires have gone through a couple of extensions here and resulted in the decrease of the violence but eliminated it. it needs to stop so the humanitarian assistance can get in. not just the united states wants to do this. u.s. and allied partner countries want to get humanitarian assistance in, food, water medicine in critical short supply. it's important for the generals if they care about the future of sudan and the sudanese people to
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put arms down and let this aid and assistance get in. certainly the united states will be there with the people of sudan trying to make sure that they have that -- those necessary supplies. now, as for departures, we have, i think, as you know, conducted three ground convoys, gotten out according to tz state department a thousand americans. we stay in touch with americans to provide information they may need should they still want to get out. i want to tell you that the population of americans that we were in touch with, that wanted to get out, much, much smaller, a fraction of that number floating out there of 16,000, which are dual nationals who want to stay in the country, they were born there, they live there, that he work there, their families are there, and they want to stay. we will stay in touch with americans as needed. conducted three ground convoys to get americans out successfully and that includes even yesterday. >> before we let you go, i mean, i think every interview with the administration going especially
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from a national security perspective will include this question, what is the latest on the efforts to get evan gershkovich out of russia as he is being wrongfully detained? have you spoken with russian officials or his family lately? >> secretary blinken talked about this yesterday. we are actively, energetically trying to get him released as al as paul whalen. that has never stopped. there is a proposal on the table for paul. we will urge the russians to accept that proposal to get him out of there. yes, we are in touch with russian officials and trying to get evan released. we want more consular access with him. we have only had one visit. we want more access to get eyes on him, a chance to talk to him. yes, we are actively involved in trying to secure his release. >> there is a proposal on the table for paul whalen. what about evan gershkovich? >> we are in initial conversations trying to get the russians to agree to release him. i wouldn't go in more detail at this early stage. we have not, obviously,
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forgotten evan. we have certainly not forgotten paul. we are trying to get these gentlemen home to their families where they belong. >> finally, austin tice, we heard secretary of state antony blinken speaking about him as well yesterday and he said the united states is engaged with syria, with third countries as well. we both in weekend at the white house correspondents' dinner talk to austin's mom. for her sake does that indicate she should have more hope her son will come home after 11 years. >> the united states has not forgotten him either and we are trying to get the best information we can about austin. we want to see this issue resolved. we want to see him home as well. i hope that debra can understand how seriously we are taking his detention as well and trying to get this resolved as quickly as we can. hopefully, those words bring
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sub new this morning, pro pub can cla raising more questions about clarence thomas's relationship with that republican megadonor harlan crow. they say the texas billionaire paid for justice thomas' grand nephew to attend private boarding schools after they dug into unrelated court filings. justice thomas had legal custody in. /* of the boy. they were said to be raising him as a son. what's unclear this morning is how much the bill was. propublica says that crow picked up the full tab according to a school administrator, former school administrator, could have exceeded $150,000. propublica says thomas did not disclose the payments from harlan crow. he did once disclose a $5,000 % % >> a lot of questions. one of them being the disclosure rules changed at some point of time here. where payments like this, $6,000 a month for the school, been required under the disclosure rules then? >> it's a good question. we talked to ethics lawyers about this. they said should properly be viewed as a gift to justice thomas and any gift over a few hundred dollars in this category should have been disclosed as you mentioned, justice thomas disclosed a smaller gift of a
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few thousand dollars from another friend for the same child's education. so it's totally unclear why he didn't disclose this and he didn't respond to our questions about that. >> one of the questions i have, can supreme court justices take anything under the current standards as long as they disclose it? they don't know what cases might come before the court. >> yeah, i know, it's a great question. i have friends who work in the government who say they have to be careful about letting somebody buy them lunch. you know, members of congress absolutely could not take gifts like this. if they could, they would have to go some sort of pre-approval process with an ethics committee. i think a larger issue here is really the supreme court, there is really no rules besides the disclosure rules they have to abide by. that's kind of the larger theme here. >> one the whethics attornies sd it's outside the norm. >> yeah, the former chief ethics lawyer in the george w. bush white house said if he had
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somebody on the staff who had taken this number of undisclosed gifts you would want to get them out of the government. >> remarkable. you have done so much substantive reporting on this, in depth reporting on this. thank you for hustling over, breaking this, this morning, and joining us on set. >> thank you. also this morning, tracking this out of san francisco. nordstrom now the latest retailer to say good-bye to the city. at least 20 major stores have closed in the area. we will talk to the city's chief economist about the recent departures. a moment caught on camera. a stroller with a baby boy strapped in starts rolling through a busy street in southern california, look at that. the baby's great count falls, struggles to get up. a good samaritan came running at the last minute to save that little boy. wow. >> i wouldn't be able to live with myself, you know. i am glad i realized it and was on it, you know. can help you open thosose doo.
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resident in crystal springs, mississippi, in a residence, i should say. according tos sheriff's office a female acquaintance was arrested, also facing charges. we will bring you more information on this as we get it. we are learning more this morning about an investigation that's now underway in new york after a subway incident where a man was killed. he been put in a chokehold but another passenger. the new york city medical examiner's office ruled the death of jordan neely a homicide. to be here, it's not a ruling on intent or culpability. a former mina hmarine held him n the chokehold. big questions about this. cnn has not independently confirmed what happened leading up to the incident. we don't know how long the man was restrained or whether he was armed. mayor eric adams says this comes back to mental health. >> we don't know exactly what
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happened here until the investigation is thorough. this highlights what i have been saying throughout my administration. people are demon with mental health i illness should get the help they need and not live on the train and i will continue to push on that. >> mayor adam said he wanted to learn more about the investigation. joining us cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john, a lot of questions here about what happened in this particular incident, what was going on before. you have learned more about the victim here though. >> so the victim is a 30-year-old man, jordan neely, he has 65 encounters with the nypd, arrests for petty larceny, jumping the turnstiles, 16 encounters as an emotionally disturbed person, but notably, three assault arrests for unprovoked attacks by punching women on the subway. now, it's important to note the person who engaged him in this
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couldn't have had any of that information. but it shows that, you know, there are people that are in the subway living in the subway, prowling the subway unhinged individuals, and these encounters are something that every subway rider in new york knows about. they usually don't end this way. >> right. >> and you think about it. we were about to get on the subway the day this happened, you know. and my husband and i were talking and makes you think again, right? this is what millions of new yorkers rely on to get around all the time. the question is, legally where does this go? the medical examiner says this is a homicide. that's not a legal implication. that's the manner of death. grand jury, do you think this goes before? does the former marine get arrested? what do you think? >> three ways it could have gone. the police could have charged him with murder or manslaughter, but they wouldn't do that without the district attorney of manhattan -- >> right, alvin bragg. >> joining them in concurring on that charge. the district attorney wants to look at the case more. now, what the district attorney
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can do after reviewing the video and interviewing all the witnesses can decide to authorize a charge and direct the police to make that arrest, or there is the third option, which is probably the more likely, given the history of such cases, which is they will put all the facts into a grand jury of 23 new yorkers from manhattan. they will hear from the witnesses. they may hear from the suspect, if he agrees to testify. they will get all of the video. they will play out all the facts and they will ask the grand jury whether to indict or not indict. >> advocates for the homeless, some city officials here in new york are calling for the arrest of that former marine, saying that should happen. is there a chance that happens as they are doing that, as they are investigating and looking at this video and hearing from witnesses? >> there is going to be pressure. this case presses a lot of buttons, a lot of emotional buttons involving race, involving fear in the subways, involving looking at that video and, you know, all you have to
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do is squint and you see george floyd or eric garner. so this is going to be something of controversy and emotion. the district attorney's lot in this case is to stick with the law and the process, but there is going to be a lot of pressure. >> quickly, do you think there is anything more that could be done right now to make our subway safer and feel safer? >> well, that's two different things. that's a really interesting question because ridership is up. >> i know. >> crime is down. >> i know. but we still feel -- >> and people don't feel safe, not because of the robberies and the assaults, but because of the feeling of disorder. unhinged people getting in your face on the train. people sleeping. people smoking marijuana. to a lot of people, it feels not in control, even though crime is down. and the mayor has repeatedly tried to sweep people out of the subways, get people to stop sleeping in the subways, get people to care and mental
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health. but it's a struggle in a city that, you know, is suffering from a homeless problem, a migrant crisis, and a resource issue. >> yeah. and that question to the mayor yesterday, what people are supposed to do on the subway. are they supposed to take matters into their own hands, as what happened here? >> this is interesting about this individual whose name we don't have, the 24-year-old former marine. a part of marine training is it this chokehold. recruits are trained in marine martial arts where they are trained, according to the marine training material i went over, by applying pressure to the carotid artery from the head and neck. the blood flow is restricted to the brain causing the enemy to pass out. this is something they are supposed to use on the battlefield and they are trained in that. it's not supposed to kill somebody, but we have learned from incident after incident that that can happen. >> yeah. a lot of questions still this
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morning. john miller, thank you. keep us updated as you hear more from your sources. >> will do. nordstrom saying good-bye to downtown san francisco. announcing this week they will be closing both stores in the area come july 1 when their leases expire. in memo obtained by cnn, the retailer's chief store officer says decisions are not easy. as many of you know, the dynamics of the san francisco market have changed the past several years impacting customer foot traffic to our stores and our ability to operate successfully. nordstrom is not alone. the san francisco standard has tracked at least 20 major store closures in that union square area. that's really the center of downtown san francisco since 2020. the city is staring a budget deficit the next two years. let's talk about all of this with the chief economist for the city and county of san francisco, ted, good morning. thank you. >> good morning. nice to speak with you. >> video of robberies, you know,
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have gone viral in san francisco. is this about crime? >> well, crime may be a part of it. again, similar to your previous segment about new york, the crime data for san francisco shows that property crime, violent crime are trending down. so, you know, we have less crime in the neighborhood where nordstrom was than we did before the pandemic. so i think maybe the perception of safety may be an issue. that's depressing foot traffic. i think there are bigger forces at play. >> what are those bigger forces, ted? >> san francisco's had a slow recovery economically from the pandemic. and the biggest factor for that is that people aren't coming into the offices. offices are very big part of the city's economy. they generate about 80% of our gdp. and, you know, there half-full on a given day. with that, we are not seeing the business tourism and the conventions and that gives downtown an empty feeling and
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makes it difficult for retailers. >> if people don't come back to the office, is there any way that downtown san francisco can be revived again? nordstrom is such an staple. they call it an anchor store for example. we saw whole foods, another part of san francisco, leaving. i know they are not exactly the same, but if people don't come back to work, what does it become? >> well, i think we need to wait for the office market to adjust. it's been a slow process. it's a slow process in san francisco as it is in other cities. but businesses still need offices. they just don't need as much office space as often as they did before. the office market is going to have to ajust for that. we need to see new tenants coming in or some of that space is going to have to be used for other purposes. that adjustment has to take place before we to daytime population in san francisco back to what we are used to. then it will be a better environment for retailers. >> the "san francisco chronicle" had an interesting report and
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it -- the headline was san francisco could be in for the biggest doom loop of all. so i had not heard the term doom loop before. this is an economic freefall for the city and one store leaving leads to the next and it's a bad, bad cycle. can san francisco avoid that at this point, or is it happening? >> i don't think it's happening yet. i think there is a risk of it happening in the future. but when we look at the economic data, we see things trending up in a way that doesn't sort of fit the doom loop narrative. again, it's been a slow recovery. for example, taxable sales in our downtown are 10% plus higher than they were last year. it's just been a slower recovery because we are waiting for really the future of downtown to sort itself out. >> but what if -- what if the best-case scenario doesn't happen? what if rents don't go down, people don't come to work? are you looking at an entirely new landscape which, by the way,
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plays into the budget deficit issue because of taxes that are paid there. >> i mean, there are a number of things, difficult decisions for the city and for other actors in san francisco over the next few years. the city is going to face budgetary precious because of remote work and lack of recovery in hotels. and the transit agencies, which we rely to make sure downtown is full, we can't get to full without transit service, they are facing fiscal issues. the issues about crime could lead into a situation where people are avoiding downtown and that makes the environment worse. i don't think that's the direction we are headed now, but that's a risk. there are a number of things we n need to get right the next few years. i think the idea of a doom loop is that this is a downward spiral we can't control. i think we have a lot of control. >> there is a lot of wonderful things about the city of san francisco. a place i certainly lover. i know we are focusing on the challenges here.
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there is still a lot of great here. thank you and good luck. >> thank you very much. coming up this weekend, king charles iii will officially be crowned. are americans going to tune into the ceremony? i struggle to get his name right. harry enten has this morning's number. and the first female rapper to get inducted into the rock & roll hall of fame. who is joining her next.
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♪ ♪ that was date that queen elizabeth made history with the first ever live televised coronation of a british monarch. this weekend her son king charles iii is going to officiallien crowned in deeply religious ceremony kicking off a three day celebration that happens in the united kingdom. with us to preview the royal occasion, cnn senior data
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reporter harry enten, now royal watcher, as well. what is this morning's number? >> this morning's number is 70 because this will be the first coronation in the united kingdom in about 70 years. of course, queen elizabeth ii was in june of 1953. and i will note that this comes at a low point in americans' opinions on the uk royal family. 30 years ago, 66% of americans had a favorable view of the royal family. look where it is today. it dropped all the way down to 27%. more americans have an unfavorable view of the uk royal family at just 38%. and i will note, you know, this is something that i find to be fascinating. americans on uk royal news, do we care? just 32% of us actually give a hoot compared to 63% who say they don't care, they are sick of the royals. >> really? >> yes. >> why? >> i guess, you know, it's all
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the drama, right? harry -- >> people love krdrama. >> they are sick of it. >> i feel like views "the crown" would reboot these numbers. what about the uk generally? >> we love our britains, okay? americans' views of the uk, look at this, 86% have a favorable view. 89% back in 1991, so this number really hasn't moved. we love our friends across the pond. this is one of my favorite questions. americans who want a u.s. royal family just 11% do. that's up from 3%. but the fact is, keep the crown across the pond. we like our republic. no monarchy involved. thank you. >> thank you for the speech, harry. >> why did it go from 3% to 11%? >> i don't know why. i think it might have been there were fewer undecideds. we were coming off of world war ii back then. maybe the memories of someone too powerful, those memories have gone adios. i don't know. >> thank you.
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i don't go, hey! i go, hey. deeper voice. >> hey! >> he became an icon as the fonz in "happy days." these days henry winkler he is being hailed for the hit hbo series "barry" in the fourth and final season. it follows the story of a hitman who finds himself in the los angeles acting scene. winkler plays barry's acting teacher in the show. [ phone ringing ] >> yes? >> i got to the bottom of the mountain and my cell leapt to
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life. >> can't you just say i got service like everybody else? >> barry escaped from prison. it happened sometime late yesterday. >> he knows where this place is. >> i highly doubt he would be going to big bear. you are on the top of a mountain. >> you've got to come get me. >> bring you back to l.a.? no, no. listen, i just spoke with the d.a. and he said it was a fortunate event that you are sequestered up there. >> i am a sitting [ bleep ] duck, tom! >> henry winkler is here with us now. clearly, as you can see from the clip, the show has some real drama to it. >> it does. you never know where the show is going to go. >> yeah. >> we are all inside bill hader's mind. that is -- and as long as you are comfortable, as long as you have packed for two weeks, you are fine. >> are you comfortable being in bill hader's mind? >> i am. the man is a genius. we have two creators. alec berg, the creme de la creme of comedy writing.
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bill hader, who wanted to be a director, diverted his life to "saturday night live," came back to what he should be doing. >> you're an acting teacher? >> i am. >> in the show. how did you -- i mean, i assume you have been in front of acting teachers before in your life. >> 14. >> 14. >> i had 14 -- >> i had 14 teachers. you take the notes that alec berg's wife when they were in class, which they based him on, you push it in and spit it out. >> how does it come across, do you think? >> i have fun. i think -- bill said to them halfway through the first year, oh, he's an [ bleep ]. >> halfway through the year? >> yes. >> i didn't know. i just thought he was, like,
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thoughtless. >> if people are not watching "barry" people who know you as the fonz and see your role as an actor think you were known you were destined for success. did you always know this was your life's work? >> i knew i wanted it to be my life's work. i didn't know it would turn out to be so wonderful and so varied. there were periods when nothing happened for eight or nine years. and then i reinvented myself. >> you've been such a mainstay on people's screens for so long. we were talking before we sat down about where we are in this moment in 2023. obviously we're approaching an election season, a presidential election. given the roles that you play, how do you see where we are now? >> i see where we are now -- my thought is imagine a catastrophe, a natural
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catastrophe, which we have now experienced a lot of. human beings are on their roof. everything that they own is underneath and destroyed underneath the roof. a boat is coming. do you say what is your political affiliation? whoa! you're -- that's not the right party for me. turn the boat around. or do you say, i need you, save me. we need each other. what the hell are we doing? >> do you think we've lost that? >> i think we better listen to each other and this -- this kind of micro cutting ourselves into shreds and separating ourselves like by an ocean is insane and untenable. but that's only a thought. >> one thing you said that i loved, you said one of the best gifts your marriage brought you was your father-in-law. >> yes, that's true. >> you have an important message you wanted to share today about him. >> i was invited by someone who
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was with icaeye care, eye healt. my father-in-law was a robust, six-foot dentist. funny. just a wonderful man who accepted me as henry. didn't care about what i did. it was different than my own family. slowly i watched his sight disintegrate. he had age-related macular degeneration, which then can proceed to this is -- geographic atrophy, which is incurable. so there is a website called ga -- geographic atrophy won't wait. ga won't wait. i say neither should you.
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get your eyes checked now. you can't screw around with looking at everything on this incredible earth. >> it's an important tribute and lovely for you to say that. thank you for your time. >> i'm very happy you asked me to be here. >> thank you. >> what a fantastic guy. i'm now watching that show. the rock 'n roll hall of fame announcing its 2023 inductees. we'll tell you who made the cut. here's a hint for one of them.t ♪ neuriva:a: think bigger. - i'm fernando, i live oututside of boston. i've been with consumer cellular for five years. consumer cellular gives you all the same features that the big companies give you. what you get for the cost is remarkable. why would you pay more mey?! - [announcer] why would you pay more when you can get unlimited talk & text with a flexible data plan starting at just20 a month.
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>> that was willie nelson's classic "always on my mind." he just turned 90 years old. he headlines the rock 'n roll hall of fame inductees. he joined six other recent performers voted into the hall of fame. ♪ if it makes you happy it can't be that bad ♪ >> one of the artists is sheryl crow. she won nine grammys during her 30-plus year career. this year's class crosses many genres of music. ♪ missy elliott also becoming the first female rapper to be inducted into the hall of fame. she did it in her first year of eligibility. the harder side of rock 'n roll
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also represented. ♪ that epic rif rage against the machine who revolutionized the '90s rock scene mixing rock and rap. kate bush, george michael, the spinners all round out the other inductees in the performer category. there are six more beyond that list including chaka khan and don cornelius. it will be epic to watch. in college, i was working for the tuscaloosa news, interning for them, my first concert i covered for them was willie nelson. my write-up was on the front page of the paper. it was epic. >> i love that. all right. i'm on vacation tomorrow. >> good for you. >> you'll be here. >> i'll be here, holding it down. >> see you monday. >> "cnn news central" starts gh

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